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On Thin Ice: How Tommy Ice's Preterist Views Refute the Doctrine of a Future Great Tribulation
 
Thomas Ice is a nationally recognized representative of the Dispensational Premillennial view of eschatology. He is president and co-founder of the Pre-Trib Research Center and is co-author with Tim LaHaye on several books on bible prophecy.

In recent years Thomas Ice has appeared in open debates with leaders of the preterist school of eschatology, resulting in enlightening publications such as "The Great Tribulation, Past or Future?" (Kregel Publishers), and a video series of the 2006 Debate with Gary DeMar by the same name. In these debates, Ice takes the view that the Olivet Discourse is primarily about events that have not yet occurred. Preterists, in contrast, take the position that the Olivet Discourse was fulfilled in the first century, corresponding to Israel's Great Tribulation of the years AD 67-70, which climaxed in the destruction of the Old Covenantal world, temple and state.

While Ice adamantly insists that Matthew 24 is concerned with events that lie in the future, he inconsistently asserts that essential parts of Luke chapter 21 have been fulfilled. Unfortunately for Dr. Ice's futurist thesis, one simple admission of a fulfilled prophecy in St. Luke's account of the Olivet Discourse sinks his entire eschatological position.

A Chilling Look at Luke 21:20-24

In his Biola debate with Gary DeMar, Ice states that Luke 21:20-24 was fulfilled in the years leading up to and including the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70. In a recent article published by Tyndale's Conservative Theological Society titled "Preterism and Zechariah 12-14: Tom's Perspective's," Dr. Ice writes:

"Preterists and Futurist, like myself, both agree that Luke 21:20-24 prophesied the a.d. 70 Roman destruction of Jerusalem."


It should be evident to all serious students of God's Holy Word why this is a fatal admission for Dr. Ice. A simple comparison of parallel passages in the Olivet Discourse reveals that if Luke 21:20-24 is fulfilled, then the Great Tribulation must be fulfilled. The parallel account of Luke 21:20-24 can be found in Matthew 24:15-21. Now, since Ice claims Luke 21:20-24 was fulfilled in the AD70 Roman destruction of Jerusalem, Matthew 24:15-21 must also have been fulfilled at that time and, therefore, we have great assurance from the words of Jesus the Messiah that the Great Tribulation is past. Compare the parallel passages:


Luke 21:20-23 Matthew 24:15-21
"...when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near.

Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, and those who are in the midst of the city must leave, and those who are in the country must not enter the city; because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.

Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days; for there will be great distress upon the land and wrath to this people" (NASB)

"When you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),

then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak.

But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!...For then there will be a great tribulation" (NASB)


A simple examination of these two parallel accounts shows the contradiction in Dr. Ice's view fatal to his futurist position. Ice holds the preterist view that the Luke 21:20-24 passage is fulfilled; he then contradicts himself, perhaps unknowingly, claiming Matthew's account was not fulfilled. Such a transparent error surrenders Dr. Ice's futurist position entirely concerning the Great Tribulation. Ice's own preterism nullifies his futurist position. Therefore, Ice either must concede both passages to the preterist view, admitting the Great Tribulation is fulfilled, or recant on his view that Luke 21:20-24 is fulfilled so as to consistently maintain that the events described never came to pass. The dilemma for Dr. Ice is herculean, for scholars almost unanimously affirm Luke 21:20-24 is fulfilled. We urge Dr. Ice to reach a decision and make a public statement of his conclusion.

The Icing on the Cake

We could stop here in our discussion and press on to a view of the future that affirms Christ's prophecies concerning the Great Tribulation were fulfilled in his generation as foretold. As Christ promised his apostles on the Mount of Olives: "So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Assuredly I say unto you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place" (Matthew 24:33-34). For those that know the history of the life and times of Christ down to the fall of Jerusalem and the Temple, the accuracy with which Jesus prophesied those events for his generation is compelling, even to the most stubborn atheist. How much more for the citizens of God's kingdom.

However, we would be remiss if we did not notice something else Dr. Ice affirms, by logical necessity, in assigning Luke 21:20-23 to AD 70. Concerning the appointed time of the destruction of Jerusalem, Jesus prophesied:

those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, and those who are in the midst of the city must leave, and those who are in the country must not enter the city; because these are days of vengeance so that all things which are written will be fulfilled (Luke 21:21-22).

Who could not be struck by the force of this statement? Israel's Great Tribulation of AD 67-70 was sovereignly designed by the Almighty to mark the completion of all things that were written concerning the Messianic generation. There could be no doubt left as to who was God's Messiah, for the prophecies concerning both Christ's mission of peace and the days of his vengeance (cf: Isa 61:1-2) were consummated in one Messianic generation (Matthew 24:33-34). In a parallel statement in Luke's gospel, Jesus further informs his apostles of this, saying:

These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning me (Luke 24:44).

In this passage, Christ's apostles were taught what the fulfillment of "all things written" signified; all things that were written in the Law and Prophets and Psalms concerning the Messianic generation were to be fulfilled. More importantly, the apostles learned from Jesus in Luke 21:21-22 when the fulfillment of "all things written" would be consummated; all would be consummated in the days of vengeance at the annihilation of Old Covenant Israel and the Temple.

Conclusion

Based on our Lord's prophecies that the disasters which befell the apostate nation were "the days of vengeance so that all things which are written be fulfilled" (Luke 21:20-22), and based on the undeniable fact that Matthew's account of those days in Matthew 24:15-18 is wrapped up inextricably with the fulfillment of Luke 21:20-23 at AD 67-70, we affirm that the Great Tribulation is past. Furthermore, we affirm that Thomas Ice's own preteristic views help affirm this conclusion and establish the historic and undeniable credibility of Christ as a true prophet. The preterist views of Dr. Thomas Ice fully nullify—and comprehensively refute—the doctrine of a future Great Tribulation.


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